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Intel documents offer no evidence of spying on Trump Tower

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  • worf McAllen, TX
    March 22, 2017 1:10 p.m.

    Plenty of evidence for spying on Trump
    Do the homework

  • Sportsfan123 Salt lake, UT
    March 22, 2017 9:03 a.m.

    @moderate

    You're about about Gorbachev and the wall, but everything after that is my point. The 80's called and want their history back.

    After communism in Russia fell they became a democratic govt. and a U.S. ally all the way up to Obama. Until Obama took down the Ukrainian govt & took control of their oil. People want to know why Putin invaded Crimia and the Ukrain, well know you now.

    Putin didnt like Obama for a very good reason, because we got in the way of some of their oil reserves which happen to be tied to Syria. If any of you think the U.S. had nothing to do with the problems in the middle east then you need to do your home work. Obama and the muslim brotherhood caused more chaos in the middle east than Great Brittain did before WWII.

    Just as GW Bush got us into wars Obama can be blamed for the mess in the middle east.

    We havnt had a real president that didnt have globalist agendas since WWII.

    The fact that our inteligence community is conducting illegal electronic surveilance on politicians including would be President Trump is the real problem. Trump has good reason to believe someone was listening in on conversations on team trump, it was the CIA/FBI. Not Obama

  • worf McAllen, TX
    March 21, 2017 3:00 p.m.

    Documents show collusion between democrats and rigging the election, but who cares if it's a crime?

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 21, 2017 6:17 a.m.

    @ SLars

    "And how did that investigation end?"

    I think its status is the same as the investigation into voting fraud, Obama's citizenship, New Jersey Muslims cheering the downing of the Twin Towers, etc., etc. Soon to be joined there, it seems, by the investigation into Obama wiretapping Trump Tower. American carnage indeed!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 20, 2017 11:40 p.m.

    The congrressional investigation is on going. I guess the dnews didnt know that?

  • SLars Provo, UT
    March 20, 2017 7:10 p.m.

    Karen

    And how did that investigation end?

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 20, 2017 6:01 p.m.

    @ SLars

    "That story came out way before the elections, and nothing was said about their ties to Russia."

    Except the stories about this possibility, including the one you cited by the NY Times?

  • SLars Provo, UT
    March 20, 2017 5:19 p.m.

    Karen R

    That story came out way before the elections, and nothing was said about their ties to Russia. No proof on Trump's associates, proof on Clinton. Are we being fair?

    Both parties try to divert attention.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 20, 2017 3:50 p.m.

    @ SLars

    "Sounds to me like the Clintons are just trying to shift blame."

    Wow, that took some leaps to get it 'round to Trump. But conspiracy theories are so easy in that way, aren't they? I wonder if Trump will pick up on this one. Or am I really speaking to him right now?!

    Mr. Trump, sir? If that's you, can I offer one suggestion, please? Stop trying so hard to get people to look somewhere else. It makes you look frantic and suspicious. So does tweeting during a hearing, like you're desperate to control the narrative. If you really have nothing to worry about, relax - it'll be okay.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    March 20, 2017 12:23 p.m.

    Vel Comrades...
    It seems Donald Trump has more connections with the Kremlin than just his wives, beauty pageants, many in administration who have quit, been fired, or recused themselves due to Russian ties - let alone that British MI6 dossier on him...

    What amazes me more is those who CONTINUE to ignore facts and reality, and defend Donald Trump tooth and nail no matter what.

    To them, is it really "America First"?
    or
    is it more Trump first, along with the Russians, first?

  • SLars Provo, UT
    March 20, 2017 11:53 a.m.

    Karen R
    Also from the New York times, the Clintons had dealings with Russia. Several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. "Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton's wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton."

    Sounds to me like the Clintons are just trying to shift blame. So far no evidence on Trump, but Hillary was instrumental in approving 20% of our governments uranium stockpile to Russia.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2017 11:13 a.m.

    Sportsfan "before Obama Russia was considered an Ally"
    I can still hear Ronald Reagan's voice as he says "My dear good friend Mr Gorbachav, let's tear down this wall that separates two long time friends and collaborative allies."

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    March 20, 2017 10:32 a.m.

    Trump's arrogance causes him to believe he was spied on.

  • Sportsfan123 Salt lake, UT
    March 20, 2017 10:02 a.m.

    @marxist

    Do you really think Obama is naive enough to leave a paper trail to leave evidence behind of listening in a political oponent?

    I'd think not, if so he'd have to use his once executive privilege to seal up any such record, just like he did with fast and furious. If you think Obama is beyond conducting any such nefarious activity then I cant help you.

    I believe all politicians are corrupt, doesnt matter if they are republican or democrat, they're all corrupted with money and power. Belonging to a specific political party is just a means to get elected.

    As far as Trumps aides having any collusion with Russia doesnt bother me, before Obama Russia was considered an Ally, now they're our biggest geo-political foe, and the Obama administration has ties to the topling of the once pro-russian Ukrainian govt. I think is a bigger concern. The fact that Joe Bidens son Hunter and John Kerrys step son Chris Heinz both atty's were put into high level positions at the largest energy/oil firm in the Ukrain called Burisma after the topling of their govt should raise some eye brows. But noone talks about that. And you wonder why Putin didnt like Obama, now you know.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2017 9:28 a.m.

    @Sportsfan123 "If the inteligence community can listen in to anyone they want their will be no evidence of it. "

    But there will be a paper authorization trail. That's the way government works. The entire western world monitors Russian traffic. That's why everyone is tuned in. The Russians are targeted, not Trump. So Trump data is a side benefit from my point of view.

    BTW, Sportsfan, don't you care if the Trumps are in cahoots with the Russians?

  • bachelors of science Brigham City, UT
    March 20, 2017 9:15 a.m.

    @ Sportsfan123

    "The CIA, NSA, FBI all govt law enforcement agencies have access to modern day technology that literally permits them to listen in, copy, store just about any conversation by using everyones devices such as lap tops, tablets, cell phones, PC's....etc"

    you forgot to mention microwave ovens

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    March 20, 2017 9:13 a.m.

    Apparently, no conspiracy, no matter how outlandish, is beyond the reach of President Trump nor of his apologists.

    And apparently, no matter what evidence is presented to show that President Trump and his apologists have misconstrued the truth, the President and his supporters deny said evidence.

    Folks, we are in real trouble. And it emanates from the White House now and the people who refuse to see truth.

  • Sportsfan123 Salt lake, UT
    March 20, 2017 9:01 a.m.

    Wire tapping is like using a type writer to write your mid-term paper in college......laughable!

    That said, since wiretapping is obsolete and probably hasnt been is use for well over a decade, it is easy to connect the dots here. The CIA, NSA, FBI all govt law enforcement agencies have access to modern day technology that literally permits them to listen in, copy, store just about any conversation by using everyones devices such as lap tops, tablets, cell phones, PC's....etc

    There was no wiretap, the Dems and the libs are correct, even the MSM is reporting something correct for once. Which lends to the question why the NY times published an article about wire tap data being used to investigate Trump aides in their supposed collusion with the Russian's. Now the NY Times is reporting just the opposite, hmmmmm.

    If the inteligence community can listen in to anyone they want their will be no evidence of it. So since all kinds of info had been leaked of conversations by Trump aides, Trumps conversation with the Mexican President, German Chancelors texts and phone conversation. Just because there is no evidence doesnt mean it wasnt done, com'n dems and libs its obvious.

  • Jim Cobabe Provo, UT
    March 20, 2017 9:01 a.m.

    My science teachers always seemed to be trying to educate me, "Absence of evidence is NOT evidence." Apparently this is not the first principle of intelligence agencies. Or journalists.

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    March 20, 2017 8:01 a.m.

    German President Merkel's cell phone is tapped. Her text messages are recorded.

    General Flyn's phone conversation is recorded, transcribed and leaked to the press.

    President Trump's phone conversation to President of Mexico is recorded, transcribed, and leaked to the press.

    But not Trump's people when Trump ran for President. Hmm.

    No one believes that Trump and his people were not spied on.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 20, 2017 6:01 a.m.

    What? Zero evidence? How could Trump, who is so extremely diligent about checking facts before commenting, tweeting or repeating anything, be wrong? This can't be possible. Must be the crooked media reporting alternative facts.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 20, 2017 5:40 a.m.

    @ SLars

    "So the New York Times lied? 'Wiretap data used in inquiry of Trump aides.' They can take down the link to the article..."

    The link I found still works. And it does indeed talk about surveillance being used in an inquiry into Trump aides. Surveillance of Russians.

    I'm still waiting for the evidence of collusion - I've not heard of there being any yet - but you have to admit that some of the people Trump surrounded himself with during the campaign had a curious number of contacts/connections with Russians. If the info we have proves anything, it does prove that.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    March 20, 2017 5:37 a.m.

    General Flynn was wire tapped, and he was in the Trump Tower.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2017 1:04 a.m.

    Moreover virtually all European countries have been monitoring Russian media traffic. They know all about Trump & Co. involvement with Russia.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2017 1:02 a.m.

    @SLars "Wiretap data used in inquiry of Trump aides."

    I'm sure in monitoring Russian traffic some contacts by them with the Trump team were accessed. That's why we know Trump's team were coordinating with the Putin government.

  • IceCreamGhost Sandy, UT
    March 20, 2017 12:47 a.m.

    By making statement after statement that turns out not to be true, he erodes the office of the president.

    If Trump isn't careful, he will lose the trust of everyone. Credibility is something that is earned.

  • pwlohse Dueren, 00
    March 20, 2017 12:23 a.m.

    So the Trump administration is collapsing under the weight of its own lies. One day, those associated with Trump will be asked: How could you have supported such deceit, causing harm to America and the world? Their answer will be: We were just following orders.

  • QuantCommenter salt lake city, UT
    March 19, 2017 11:16 p.m.

    @SLars, did you actually read the article? It didn't say anything about Trump Tower or Trump himself being wiretapped. His aides were having conversations with Russian officials and those Russian officials were tapped. The article is easily searchable and available.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    March 19, 2017 10:37 p.m.

    So the New York Times lied? "Wiretap data used in inquiry of Trump aides." They can take down the link to the article, and block the internet archive from archiving their site, but they can't get back the newspapers and pictures that people saved on their computer.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 19, 2017 6:19 p.m.

    Trump's incredible disconnect from facts, reality, discretion, and civility is incredible. Yet more so is his willingness to defend it when demonstrably his claims are disproven.
    This is a serious character flaw in any person. But in the president, it is embarrassing and dangerous, too.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    March 19, 2017 6:16 p.m.

    There may have been spying on Trump Tower, just not by the US.
    How much do you trust your comrades, Mr Trump?
    If I was influencing an election, I'd want to keep tabs on my puppet.