It's illegal to wire tap and spy on Americans without a FISA Warrant unless
you are the President.So, if you want to spy on Americans without a
FISA Warrant, you spy on foreigners who most likely will be talking with Trump
associates.Then you can honestly speak a half truth. We never spied
on Trump or his associates. Becausewe spied on the foreigners they talk
to to back spy. It's like telling your child, "I never spy
on your and never would." I just spy on your friends to see what
you're up to.We are blessed to have President Trump - a man who
works to make other's lives better. God bless President Trump.
The system of law and order along with checks and balances in our Constitutional
and legal system were made for a reason. Draining the swamp was utilized by
this President to win an election with dissatisfied voters. The President
promised he would do things as he has done in his business. However, he
didn't think of the processes that are built into those already established
by our Founding Fathers. He is trying to bully his way into politics and now
government by his proven tactics.It must be hard for his Generals,
retired and active duty along with the the experienced people in some positions
to see the follies of his ways. He has surrounded himself with family and
cronies. John Dean said it well about the lack of experience of the White House
Counsel. Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward type journalists are still a
protection for our Country.
@all dems libs and Trump hatersYou all do the comparison game,
Hillary did nothing wrong you say, only because director Comey decided not to
prosecute her, why we dont know. Hillary lied before congress denied ever having
a private email server, then Comey publically endicts her confirming the
contrary. Hillary then sheepishly admits it and does not appologise for lying to
the public. Benghazi was all on her, pay to play with Clinton foundation,
corruption. That is why Trump won folks! Not because of Russian hacking of the
DNC, or supposed collusion with trump aids with Russia.You all
demonise Trump because of the horrible things he said about women, yet he has
never been convicted of sexual predatory assault that you all claim. Bill
Clinton was impeached for that though, but you seem to be ok with that.Then Michael Flynn is skewered before the public because someone in govt
leaked illegal electronic surveillance data from listening to private
conversations without his knowledge while in the Trump tower.Yet
Comey refuses to investigate the leak, but is happy to investigate supposed
Russian Trump collusion.Cant any of you see whats wrong with this
Crazy how some folks believe Trump colluded with the Russians when there is no
evidence. The media can make people believe anything.
What a witchunt. Hillary Clinton made me vote for Trump. Not the Russians.
Political witch hunt. Trump is a threat to corruption, and they are angry. The
media is a threat to America's moral.
The reason there was no wiretapping is because Trump said their was.
What a yawner. Wake me when you've got something of substance. . .
We find out today that there were two investigations being done by the FBI as
early as July. One about Hillary's email server, and the other about Trump
and the Russian connections. Both were happening at the same time. I find it treasonous that FBI Director Comey affected the outcome of our
election by releasing that information ONLY about Clinton a few days before the
election. Why didn't he do the same about Trump? That is the question I
want answered. I think Comey acted outside of the FBI's own rules when he
released something that would damage the Democrat but not the Republican????And remember he announced that Hillary was NOT guilty of any criminal
activity. None! Yet a few weeks later he says there in another
investigation?This sound crummy and dishonest.
The never Trumpers are out in full force on this fake news saga. One small
detail you all don't mention. There's no evidence of wrongdoing.
@ worf "What about Hillary colluding with CNN to oust Bernie Sanders
and Trump?"Hillary ... bwawawa
Disastrous day for Trump. All his supporters who blather on about "fake
news" ... Trump has created fake news to try to obscure all the weaknesses
in his administration and his personality. What a blow the USA has taken in
terms of international prestige. We've got an unhinged person driving the
As someone who has voted GOP for 36 years, I am thoroughly shocked that any
Republican would support Trump. He has done things 100x worse than Hillary,
Obama and the others he has attacked. And he is so completely the opposite of
Utah/LDS values. Support him at the peril of your party and if you want to be
hypocritical. He is a dangerous, self-promoting, ignorant populist demagogue.
The worst this country has ever seen.
@FTI totally agree, the hypocrisy and dishonesty coming from Trump
supporters is awful, the question I struggle with is do we try to maintain our
integrity or get down in the gutter with them.
The trump supporters and Donald by his tweets are trying to spin the Russian
investigation this against Hillary or Obama or Jimmy Carter. His slanderous
false statements against a past President failed and desperation is settling
in. Flynn's unreported money is just the tip of the Siberian iceberg.
Eegads!Enough with the hypocritical double standard Trumpsters!You know deep down in your innermost gut -- that IF this was President
Hillary Clinton we were all talking about -- you would all have your pitch
forks and torches and be marching to Washington D.C. right now.The
double standard of what is right and what is wrong is nauseating!To say
@TolstoySupporters are willing to disregard values and integrity for their
greater purpose. Lies, dishonesty and arrogance are alright if the ends justify
the means. These were the same people complaining about the past
President's golf and travel budget when Trump has already exceeded that in
2 months compared to what Obama spent in a year.
The investigation must have been authorized by the Trump Justice Department.
Clinton campaign contacts with the Russians pre-election should also be
investigated. We all look forward to facts, not innuendo or accusations. This
entire issue is a high stakes gamble for both the right and the left.
FBI says NO guilt in Hillary's e-mail and Benghazi, and Jason
Chaffetz runs 6 investigations.But looks into a Bryce Canyon
National Park tweet, a burning man Ranger, and says the poor need to
give up phones to pay for healthcare.Trump IS being investigated,
Trump IS shown to be a liar, and Jason Chaffetz still sees no
need for an investigation.
@Ralph.You may be right that most of Trump's current defenders will
turn on him. But, a lot of them (especially in the Rust Belt) were Obama
voters, twice. Most of Trump's most energetic supporters felt that they
were had by Obama. To them, Trump's tweets and what Trump says matters not
at all, as long as Trump does what they feel they elected him to do. They feel
Trump is just playing the political game that Democrats and Obama established a
long time ago. So far, the vast majority of Trump diehards are not disappointed
at all.But, there is another 10% (plus or minus) of America that
voted for Trump, that are not Trump diehards (but fairly conservative). So far,
Democrats are not even bothering to create a new space for them to call home.
But, by the same token, Trump and his people would be wise to not take this
group for granted, because their true support for Trump is tepid, at best. A
large number of this 10% voted for Freedom Caucus members, supported the Tea
Party, and if they had lived in Utah, would have voted for Evan McMullin as a
purely protest vote.
What about Hillary colluding with CNN to oust Bernie Sanders and Trump?
So there is no evidence on either side.
8 years we had to listen to Conservatives call Barrack Obama the Anti-Christ,
and evil Socialist, Satanic, Obamanation, Secret Muslim, Birther, etc.8 years Pres. Obama was in office and was NEVER investigated for
impropriety.50 days in office -- and Republican Donald Trump is
already proven to be a pathological liar, a false accuser, and IS under FBI
investigation for influence of a foreign entity...So much Republican
moral high grounds, the truth, moral compass, integrity and values.
Well proof is in the puddin, Trump makes things up as he goes. Proven fact he is
not well versed in the game of politics. He opens his flapper too much and
he's left with egg on his face.Too bad I had higher hopes for
him.But I'd still like to hear of any evidence of the collusion
with Trump aides with Russia regarding the election. Beyond the obvious leaks
after hacking the DNC and exposing the corruption of the Hillary campaign what
else has Russia done other than doing America a favor of further exposing
Hillary for what she is.There is no evidence of voter machine
tampering, or voter application fraud. Beside that what has Russia done that the
U.S. doesnt do to others? Obama sent his best man to run interference in Israel
to try and defeat Netanyahu in his election. The CIA helped topple
the former pro-Russian Ukrainian govt under Obama Then U.S. then sends two
agents to take control of Ukrains largest energy/oil firm Burisma, those agents
are none other than Hunter Biden, son of former VP Joe Biden, and John Kerry
stepson Chris HeinzSo our govt can meddle in other countries
affairs, but they sure dont like it when someone else returns the favor, funny
It is sad beyond belief that the nation's attention is turned to the
bizarre claims of the new President.It is sad beyond belief that the
FBI is investigating the possibility that members of the Trump administration
and/or campaign were in some way involved with the Russian government to
influence the election for the new President.We don't know yet
where the facts will lead. However, the fact is that the entire US intelligence
community has decided that it is beyond a doubt that the Russians influenced our
2016 election. That this influence was to aid candidate Trump. And that there
are rather disturbing coincidences between the Trump campaign and administration
based on these efforts. At a minimum, the President has a tin ear
to appearances. At a maximum, he allowed/encouraged/abetted Russian
interference. The truth likely lands somewhere in between. However, all of the
possibilities should disturb us all. And render this Presidency forever
tarnished.Sad for the nation.
The Donald may twitter rant false information and allegations, so it is good to
listen on CNN to this commencing investigation first hand.
Time for another tweet storm.FBI director James Comey not only
verified that the FBI is investigation the connection between Russia and the
Trump campaign, but also said that the so-called wire-tap accusations by Donald
Trump lacked any evidence. What a revelation, although we knew this all the
time. Trump has been censured by both the House and Senate intelligence
committees, but now the FBI and, by extension, the Justice Department.Where do we go from here. Trump is now at the worst approval ratings in early
presidential history at 37%. Now, certainly, the Trump devotees and "true
believers" will dispute these findings as they do with anything
"Trump", but reality is not their forte. They want to believe, and
nothing will dissuade them their faith in the man. It's strange, but polls
put this number at 21% of the electorate.Now Trump is doing the
exact opposite from what he promised rural, white voters who brought him to
office. He's shafting them on healthcare, wants to give huge tax cuts to
the rich and privileged, and is trying to shut down programs that benefit his
supporters to curry favor with Wall Street and corporations,
Rogers and Comey both came across as prepared, competent professionals.
Republican member questions and Democratic member questions differed; the
Republicans explored leaks and the Democrats explored Russian contacts. Both
the NSA's Rogers and the FBI's Comey agreed that the intelligence
trust between the US and Great Britain, and the US and Germany was deep and
could withstand President Trump's tweets. Most of the detailed questions
of Comey were met with no comment. Rogers was able to explain the FISA court
process.The investigations are in good hands. When they will finish
is unknowable, but Comey said that the FBI investigation began in July, and by
counter-intelligence standards it is still early.
Where's the DNews headline about no wiretapping?
It would be poetic justice and karma for Trump to start off his Presidency in
the White House and finish it in the Big House.
Vermonter: "Trump's defenders will naturally defend him to the end.
"I don't agree. I think most of them will realize that
they've been had. It's not fun to realize that by voting
for Trump, you've been made a fool, but it's important to get past it
and work on improving the future of our country.
OK, Trump is delusional and/or criminal. It's official.What do
you think will happen when Fox News reports that a N. Korea nuclear attack is
imminent?Trump himself blamed his latest libelous tweet on the folks at
Fox network. He's just so courageous.Trump's likely
tweet: Just heard N. Korea is about to nuke us. Bad! Horrible! I just
launched a full counter-strike. Bye Commies! What will you think
then? You may think it's far-fetched....
Trump's defenders will naturally defend him to the end. The anti-Trump
people have already declared him guilty of rigging the election. (As an aside,
we already had a excellent example of how to rig elections during the Democratic
primaries last year.)I'll leave this one with Comey to do his
work, as we all should. As long as the investigation is ethical and proceeds
according to law, then the process and the results of the investigation should
be respected.Trump will simply ignore the investigation while it is
proceeding (as I suppose any president would and should do). If
Congress generally wants to allow government to grind to a halt, I have no
qualms with this. When the nation is as polarized as we are now, I think this
is as the Founders of the nation intended. Gridlock means nothing gets done.
But, it also means bad people in positions of power cannot do bad things.
Trump's behavior is extremely dangerous. He is even willing to break the
UK - US alliance to further his diversion. This guy could well get us all
killed in a nuclear accident/deliberate exchange. This is serious. Utah
doesn't get it yet.
Oops. No evidence, as expected. What an incredibly costly use of
integrity, of time and resources, just for a cheap distraction. This isn't
presidential behaviour; it's not acceptable for anyone of reason to pull
this kind of stunt. Sad.
The whole Trump Tower "wiretapping" flap was raised by Trump as a
diversionary tactic, to take our attention away from the Trump - Russian
connection which is potentially impeachable, and not only that - treasonous.