According to the doctrines of the Church, we cannot enter the celestial kingdom
without abiding by God's laws. If that is the case and what we do on earth
should reflect what they do in heaven (if we hope to build a Zion society), then
why should we allow people into the country who do not abide by the laws of the
land? It makes no sense. We don't allow people into temples without a
recommend, either.There may be parents who have children who do not
make it to the celestial kingdom, but do you think if they cry to God he will
rewrite his laws? The answer is no. So then why is it we should rewrite the laws
of the land that are meant to protect the people who live here?Instead, the Church should send retired seniors as missionaries who were
professionals in their trades and fields of business to these countries to teach
them the same skills, so the people there can lift themselves out of poverty. It
makes no sense to bring people here to this country who cannot function because
of language or economic barriers and who will only become a public charge.America cannot fix all the world's problems, so it becomes
incumbent upon people everywhere to make efforts to do so themselves.
Bravo Matthew LaPlante for a well-researched and well-written article. Let us
remember that this gut-wrenching story is the result of 35 years of US policy in
El Salvador--so spare me the "it's not our problem" response. (The
failures of successive Salvadoran governments, especially from 1992-2009, is
also part of the story, but no room here to discuss them.) In the 1980s
thousands fled north to escape the civil war--which, in the name of fighting
"communism", was being supported by the US government to the tune of
almost a billion dollars a year. Of those, thousands found their way to Los
Angeles where there was NO effort on the part of the US government to help them
integrate, get an education or jobs. The result: development and explosive
growth of increasingly lethal gangs. When the war ended, these gang members were
shipped back to El Salvador where they have wrecked increasing havoc ever since.
The US response has been minimal and, unsurprisingly, unhelpful. For readers
who think I don't know what I'm talking about, I spent 25 years doing
research in El Salvador, from 1979 to 2004. You can find my books on Amazon and
many of my articles on academia.edu.
Central America sadly is a war zone where the wiked rule. The answer is
perplexing. America can't handle millions of immigrants even if they are
good people. We are over 300 million now so we have reached an economic limit
without degrading our own country into the same state. We certainly can't
keep taking in uneducated people that offer nothing but welfare cases. Cases
like this woman are a nightmare senerio and I could see US immigration policy
granting exceptions for cases like this and bringing these few people in to the
country and putting them on a fast path to citizenship. This wouldn't
involve a large number of people. This woman deserves help and so does her
daughter. It would be wonderful if we could save all the poor tortured people
from African and Asia and Central and South America as well as the Ukraine but
you would have to have a country 10 times the size of America with 10 times the
Goldminer, you asked why not just get a plane ticket and fly here? First everyone needs to understand what it takes to fly to the United States.
1st is a passport. It doesn't matter if you are a US citizen or a citizen
of another country, you cannot get on a plane coming to the United States. So, get a passport. Yes, but next, if you are not a US citizen, you must
have a valid reason to come. A tourist VISA is the easiest, but it is required
that you explain where you plan to visit. A young child under 16 traveling
without an adult escort, who probably not be approved for a Tourist VISA. If a lot of children starting applying for a tourist VISA it would raise
flags. I am sure a few people have tried it and probably have been successful.
Carman: Your comment is worthy. How can we really, as a nation, help these
nations get rid of their problem? El Salvador has had a corrupt, criminalized
government since its inception. I am not even sure sending in US troops would
solve the problem; it certainly hasn't done so in the Mid-East. And,
frankly, unless the citizens rise up (as did our Fore- Fathers in 1776) and put
their lives at risk for Freedom, it will not happen.Were I living
there and my child was threatened, I would take action. And, BTW, where is the
father in this, nothing was said about him?
James E. you raise a good point. Why don't they just fly here with their
family and see what happens? Our problem is world-wide and,
frankly, is similar to problems that people have struggled with for millennia.
We can NOT take in the world, and even if we did, would our lib/elites really be
loving and caring? Or would they become the ruling bunch they are trying to
become? And how would that help the people? It wouldn't.Frankly, as scripture shows repeatedly, that turning to God and following His
principles is the ONLY way to be safe and even that will take strong action,
too. We certainly are NOT seeing that happening even now, are we?The swamp DOES need to be cleaned out!
Under the guise of compassion are we to absorb the entirety of the world's
population, depriving our own children of the freedom and treasure we and our
forefathers have prepared for them? Transporting en mass the youth of any nation
to the U.S. not only harms us but harms the nation of origin by siphoning off
the best of their generation reinforcing the feedback loop of destruction. It
also relieves the pressure to change, protecting the evil taking root. In the past our attempts to help these nations has been criticized as
colonialism or adventurism but now we see the price of non-interventionism. And
so we are faced with a choice: intervention or isolation. Both are reasonable,
both have advantages and disadvantages. However, the path we're on,
non-interventionism with unlimited immigration, only leads to our destruction.
And then we won't be helping anyone. As an aside, I've
always wondered why people pay a Coyote thousands of dollars when they could fly
to America with their child, first class no less, to any city for far less money
on a tourism visa.
One major issue with many of these countries is the deportation of U.S. grown
criminals back to their "home" country. It's certainly not the only
issues they have, but having lived in Central America (yes, a mission many moons
ago), and having traveled back and forth to Mexico, Central America, and South
America for the past 20+ years for work, I've seen first hand the problems
created by the U.S. just washing it's hands of the illegal immigrant
"criminals", that were fostered and created to be criminals, in the
U.S.The countries that these people were sent back to, had little to
no planning or aid by the U.S. to handle the influx of violence that was sent
back their way. In Guatemala, for example, many of the worst criminals were
sent to a prison in Escuintla...which couldn't handle what was coming their
way, and eventually the prisoners took over the prison, killed the guards and
escaped to created havoc and unrest in a country that was just beginning to
control the guerilla warfare that existed in teh 70s and early 80s.... now
it's begun to spin out of control.The U.S. needs to control
immigration, but can't just "wash it's hands" by simply
deporting in mass, all the bad...
So a president should continue this sham that lets people into our country and
treats them as second class citizens their entire lives? I am all for changing
the racists quotas that the Democrats want. The Democrats want the illegal
aliens to be their slave laborers. Change the quotas and make them legal or
keep them out. But don't pretend that the progressive agenda of
lawlessness is moral.
Unfortunately, the pattern of evil gangs that use violence and intimidation to
plunder, profit and rule in blood and horror is ancient in Central America, if
we believe the Book of Mormon's account of the Jaredite and Nephite
civilizations, both extinct because they tolerated those secret combinations.
The plight of innocents caught in these societies is heart-rending. I am a confessed liberal. I do believe that we ought to try to help those who
flee this type of oppression, and that we ought to try to help the good souls
who remain and choose to fight back against the gangs. How we most effectively
help is unclear to me, however. The successes found in the Book of Mormon were
pretty draconian at times, and in the end, unsuccessful over the "long
Second try.First comment put on hold for unknown reason.What
if we had these opinions of the majority of KSL posters when the Jews were
fleeing the Holocaust before and during WWII?Would economic reasons
or lack of valid Visa prohibit them from entering and staying in the US?Would we deport them back to their country of origin?Why are
Cuban's treated differently than other Latins ?
We can't just keep accepting all illegals. The budget strain is enormous.
If gang violence is the only requirement for sending people to illegally enter
another country, then where should we send the children of New York and Chicago?
This mother is being misled by just another gang (of smugglers) and her
daughter will be lucky if she does not end up in a human trafficking ring. If
the mother has enough money to send her daughter to the U.S., then she has
enough money to move herself and her daughter to a closer location away from the
current gangs that are harassing them. The U.S. does not have unlimited
resources to take in all the hardship cases of the world, as can be seen in our
$20 trillion debt. Those countries' citizens are responsible for fixing
what is wrong in their country rather than sending their problems to our
country. This article is trying to mislead people into thinking that illegal
immigration and breaking our laws and subverting our nation's security is
justified just because these people have been misled into thinking that
it's the only option. It's not.
Clearly, the solution is for Congress to change the immigration laws so that
they can come here legally. But until Congress does, it is the sworn duty of
the President and all officers of the law to enforce it.This article
selects the most pathetic of all of the stories. Let us all feel appropriately
guilty then, because guilt is the tool that Lucifer uses to estrange us from
rationality.It is not the correct method to force the hand of
Congress by flooding the nation with people who can't be here legally. So
lets make a legal path and bring them all! If we can sort out those who will
just form more gangs when they get here and keep them out, then lets destroy
what was once the American dream for the sake of guilt. When we have become a
third-world country maybe then the world will love us like its own.Really, is that what we want?
LDS church position."Families are meant to be together. Forced
separation of working parents from their children weakens families and damages
society," but adds: "We acknowledge that every nation has the right to
enforce its laws and secure its borders. All persons subject to a nation's
laws are accountable for their acts in relation to them." I
disagree with the wording of one sentence, it should be "Forced separation
of parents from their children for breaking our countries laws, weakens families
and damages society," American families suffer the same. We should not be
encouraging parents to send their children here alone, hoping for amnesty, and
The coyotes are just a different kind of gang exploiting the people. There is a
better way. They need to arm the good citizens to give them a chance against the
gangs. They need to create a "well-regulated (trained) citizen militia,"
and let the honorable citizens take control of their country.
The answer is not to bring 1.5 billion people from all of the lawless,
gang-infested, corrupted countries around the world. The answer is to help
these people address the problems in their home countries. In Central America,
we should be helping governments rid their countries of violent gangs. It will
be a tough job, but it is a better solution than having the entire country move
to the U.S. The problem is that it is not just the victims that come, but the
criminals as well.
Choose the right. We don't give compassion by rewarding illegal behavior.
Millions of people died in Ireland before they could escape the
famine, my grandmother took 11 years to come here legally with her sister. Encouraging people to come here illegally is against Gods laws, lying,
stealing and coveting should not be a means. We already gave over a million
green cards to central America in the 90's because of the unrest. The
Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An
amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. It's
up to the government to decide, not foreign individuals.
El Salvadore sounds bad with a muder rate of 80.94 per 100,000 inhabitants
yearly. But then you look up St. Louis with 49.9 murders per 100,000, and
Detroit at 43.5 per 100,000 and you realize that there are areas of this country
that are just as bad.We have legal ways for people to send their
children as refugees. We don't need people breaking our laws or others who
this is a tragic situation we have got to change the course of events to help
these people and their families they are not the problem in trying to make
their lives better thank you for this article DN could it be sent on to our
representatives in congress
I guess you don't really know what you would do unless you were in a
similar situation. When you get to know people one on one their situation
becomes more real and you can empathize on some level.
It is not undocumented migration. It is illegal immigration. President Trump is
working very hard to keep Americans safe. The rule of law matters.
I respectfully submit that not every person on the planet has a right to
immigrate to the US because of instability and unrest in his or her home
country. Imagine a dysfunctional family next door suddenly and without warning
sending over two teenagers to live with you because they are being threatened by
gangs. How long would you keep them? El Salvador is a small country with a
relatively large population with a long history of political instability. The
solution to this problem lies with the people of El Salvador, not the United
States. Hiring a smuggler to illegally transport a daughter who has a 60%
chance of being raped on the journey in order to protect her from being shot by
a gang member is not a viable choice. It is a total abdication of parental
responsibility. What keeps the gang member from shooting the parent who allowed
the informant to escape? If things are so bad, why isn't the parent making
the trip? This is a tragic situation, to be sure. But seeking to make villains
of US law enforcement is not the answer.
After all the pain and heartbreak and danger, to arrive here and be called a
criminal for your mere existence is kind of amazing. This, a
'christian' nation, we're told.
Having compassion towards your fellow human beings shouldn't be considered
conservative or liberal. It's called being human.
Is there a non-liberal newspaper for Utahn's? Deseret News is no longer a
I cannot even imagine.