Rock On: Taking the stress out of Utah-BYU

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  • worf McAllen, TX
    April 17, 2017 10:18 a.m.

    It's time to end this rivalry.

    It just causes bitterness, and contention.

    Let the twin brothers go their separate ways.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    April 12, 2017 10:25 a.m.

    It's always amusing reading how much the 2nd most rival obsessed fan base in the country lives in denial about the importance of the BYU-Utah rivalry.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    April 12, 2017 10:21 a.m.

    AZUTE1 - Mesa, AZ

    RE: "to watch BYU beat the likes of Nebraska, Boise, Michigan State"

    "Final rankings/records of these schools?"

    Don't tell the whole story:

    BYU ended Nebraska's 29 season home opener winning streak; Nebraska finished the season stomping UCLA in the Foster Farms Bowl; UCLA stomped U in RES.

    BYU beat Boise St 35-24 the week after the Broncos beat Washington; Boise St also destroyed Virginia 56-14.

    BYU destroyed the Spartans 31-14 at Michigan St ; Ohio St barely beat MSU 17-16 and Michigan only beat the Spartans 32-23.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    April 11, 2017 2:49 p.m.

    STriker - Ask people outside of your local ward. You probably will get a different response. It is always amusing to see comments by Mormons outside Utah who get their cues from the local wards on what is going on within their particular state about BYU and Utah. Nearly all outside of Utah don't know and don't care(I say that having lived in 19 different states and worked in 15 more and traveled extensively in all 50). Local wards in states other than Utah will almost always be wrong about the impression of the rivalry within the particular state.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    April 11, 2017 2:49 p.m.

    STriker - Ask people outside of your local ward. You probably will get a different response. It is always amusing to see comments by Mormons outside Utah who get their cues from the local wards on what is going on within their particular state about BYU and Utah. Nearly all outside of Utah don't know and don't care(I say that having lived in 19 different states and worked in 15 more and traveled extensively in all 50). Local wards in states other than Utah will almost always be wrong about the impression of the rivalry within the particular state.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    April 11, 2017 1:45 p.m.

    BYU still has a football team?

    Huh.....

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    April 11, 2017 10:54 a.m.

    I think SoonerUte wins at life today. Nice.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2017 8:41 a.m.

    Striker, coming from the Midwest to Utah I agree its unusual for fans to hope their rival fails. They only root against their rival on game week, and later in the year if it makes a difference in the conference title race.

    I also never experienced a cheerleading local media that so consistently over-hyped a team, predicting special seasons, national title contention, and co-Heisman trophy winners.

    Since you came from Utah, I suggest your perspective is still blue-goggled. Your claim that little red fans would rather watch BYU lose than their own team win may have been true 20 years ago, when the Ute program struggled. That changed as the Ute program has risen. Now big red fans are caught up in Southern Division races, and while the little blue fans tune in to hope the Utes fail. There is definitely a Cougar obsession with the Utes.

    Also, you give too much credit to Utah fans -- Aggie fans also enjoy a good Cougar loss.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 11, 2017 7:36 a.m.

    "to watch BYU beat the likes of Nebraska, Boise, Michigan State"

    Final rankings/records of these schools?

    And yes, contrary to your wishful-thinking, it's in fact not only possible, but reality that one can love one's own school & wish it to win & simultaneously root against another school, period.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    April 11, 2017 7:15 a.m.

    @ Striker

    Yep; BYU fans NEVER rub it in on Utah after a loss. It always amuses me when BYU fans act like their fan base is above that when nothing, and I mean nothing, could be further from the truth. Fortunately the ones I know don't say squat when face to face; it's pretty easy to take shots under a goofy little screen name on this forum. Whole different story in person. As far as the hatred goes; take a look at the very first post on this thread; that pretty much sums it up.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 10, 2017 11:03 p.m.

    Red, you completely missed the point. I don't live in Utah, and I don't judge a fan base just off the comments of a newspaper, but I've heard from numerous, numerous different people in Utah who have said there are an innumerable amount of little red 'fans' who would rather watch BYU lose than their own team win. You're post proves that 100%. I'm so glad I don't live there anymore. I get to travel all over the Midwest to see BYU play and I love the Big Ten rivalries, but nowhere do I see any fan base who desires to see any school lose more than their own team win. It's just nuts. I even read an article from a ute radio station who discussed this once and had the same concerns. They didn't understand why a fan base acts that way.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2017 10:20 p.m.

    I like the idea of eliminating the regular season game, and matching up Utah and BYU in Vegas. It made early bowl season interesting, and both teams would have to earn their way to the game. The new NFL stadium should increase the value of that bowl.

    Utah would go to the Las Vegas Holy Bowl provided they are not the PAC12 representative in the playoffs, selected for the Rose Bowl, or selected for the Alamo Bowl.
    BYU would go... well... if they're bowl eligible, because what other choices do they have?

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    April 10, 2017 9:17 p.m.

    @Striker

    You say that Utah fans were "forced to watch BYU beat the likes of Nebraska, Boise, Michigan State etc instead of watching their own team."

    That is only half the story. To be fair, you should have also included that they were forced to watch BYU lose to the likes of Utah State, Virginia, Washington, UCLA, Nevada, Central Florida, Michigan, Memphis, Boise State, Missouri, and, yes, Utah (6 times in a row, and 11 of the last 14).

    I'd say that it wasn't really that painful.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 10, 2017 8:53 p.m.

    @Christoph

    "Will Utah follow through and play the game in Provo in September?"

    If Utah values the health and safety of its players, fans, and coaches (and their wives) they won't.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    April 10, 2017 7:01 p.m.

    Will Utah follow through and play the game in Provo in September? Stay tuned.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    April 10, 2017 6:19 p.m.

    Well, Dr. Rock, I don't find your comment particularly amusing.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 10, 2017 5:27 p.m.

    Agreed. Little red already cancelled it and that exact fan base couldn't get enough of BYU. They were forced to watch BYU beat the likes of Nebraska, Boise, Michigan State etc instead of watching their own team play.

    This topic needs to be dropped. How many schools have a true rival? Very few. It's makes sports so much more fun to watch and follow. Each team takes turns being at the top. If fans can't handle it oh well. Let the game be played.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 10, 2017 4:45 p.m.

    Would've make a bit of difference for the BYU-obsessed haters Rock.